Sunday, October 26, 2008

Quote of the Day

"A Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home,"When the white man knows he runs as great a risk of biting the dust every time his Afro-American victim does, he will have greater respect for Afro-American life.

~Ida Wells


(Black Republican actvist 1892 in responce to the lynching of blacks)

18 comments:

Political Debris said...

Nice quote. Everyone should have a firearm in their home for protection.

Anonymous said...

eep! don't let the conspiracy theorists get a hold of this one!

James said...

Common sense quote from a common sense lady. Very nice.

Anonymous said...

HOW IS THIS COMMON SENSE SHE IS ASKING BLACKS TO KILL "US" WHITES!SLAVERY WAS TERRIBLE BUT ENCOURAGING SLAVES TO KILL SLAVE OWNERS IS EQUALLY WRONG.

Paul Hue said...

@anon2: You are really nuts, with your ALL CAPS. Wells did not urge blacks to "kill whites"; she urged people to defend themselves against violent criminals. You have a very severe reading comprehension problem.

And that's just your first sentence. Your second is even more kooky. If you were a slave, you would not seek freedom via violence? The US founders, whom I assume you join me in lauding, resorted to violence for much lesser outrages that enslavement. If "taxation without representation" warranted deadly resistance, how could enslavement not?

I am most curious to know how you advocate responding to the enslavement of you, your spouse, and your children.

Anonymous said...

SLAVERY IS A TERRIBLE THING I AM NOT ADVOCATING SLAVERY. BUT TO ENCOURAGE SLAVES TO RISE UP AND GO SLAUGHTER PEOPLE IS WRONG.SLAVES WERE EVENTUALLY FREED BY THE COURTS AND THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, NOT BY SLAVES GOING ON A VIOLENT JIHAD. NELSON MANDELA WELLS IDA WELLS EXAGGERATED SLAVERY AND APARTHEID.MOST SLAVES IN THE SOUTH PREFERRED TO SLAVES BECAUSE THEY WERE TAKEN CARE OF. MANY OF THEM FOUGHT ON THE SIDE OF THE SOUTH IN THE CIVIL WAR.

Anonymous said...

"NELSON MANDELA WELLS IDA WELLS EXAGGERATED SLAVERY AND APARTHEID.MOST SLAVES IN THE SOUTH PREFERRED TO SLAVES BECAUSE THEY WERE TAKEN CARE OF. MANY OF THEM FOUGHT ON THE SIDE OF THE SOUTH IN THE CIVIL WAR."

just stop... right...now.

you're a hot mess. please, go read a history book. you're either a troll or an ignoramus.

exaggerated slavery and apartheid? do you know what US slavery was? you're telling me that a system of bondage that lasted 250+ years and created institutionalized and systemic racial supremacy was exaggerated? black folks were seen as property... property! like... an object - something you own... not human... de-human! when we got "lucky" we got classified as 3/5ths a human for political purposes. good times.

http://www.withoutsanctuary.org

http://old-photos.blogspot.com/2007/12/whipped-slave.html

have you been to south africa? have you ever seen soweto? ever been to the shanty towns in cape town? do you even know what apartheid means? 44 years of "separate development" aka forced segregation. nonwhites were restricted to designed sets of land, which most of the time, black africans were not allowed to own. So what happens? The minority of white south africans took 80% of the land. nonwhites and whites were restricted from speaking together, using public facilities, using certain languages... every "right" was restricted by the government. black africans got placed in "homelands" which had no resources, poor businesses, and no access to the larger white controlled government.

i can't even begin to describe the violence or terror of apartheid and i'm not going to try: http://www.capetown.at/heritage/history/apartheid.htm

And please, tell me how 27 years in prison, doing forced labor and mining, and being restricted to one 30m conversation every 6 months, is exaggerating.

ida b. wells is not telling negroes to go out and wage radical jihad on white people. she was telling black folks to defend themselves. you mean to tell me that if someone came after you with a rope and a shotgun you'd stand there and take it? i mean... they used to barbecue us in the south. do you understand that? does this look exaggerated to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lynching-of-jesse-washington.jpg ?

"most slaves in the south preferred..." that's ignorance and a flat out wrong. and do you know why black slaves fought on the confederate side? confederates were outnumbered 20m to 9m. When the confederate army got too tiny to sustain itself, strategists got desperate. so they promised black slaves that if they fought for the confederacy, they'd earn their freedom. now, based on your logic... why would they want to fight for the confederacy if they preferred the "joys" of slavery? Yeah didn't think so. Heck yeah, 700,000 of them fought, they wanted their freedom! And any negro found in a union uniform... lynched or shot on sight.

i can't even do anymore... i'm too tired. i'm done.

Narnian said...

Well said, lowercase anonymous. Defending yourself is a right that comes from God, regardless of what laws men impose.

Anonymous said...

Saying that the God of the holy bible is okay with blacks killing is wrong. In the bible there are many instances of slavery and no where does god say rise up and kill the slaveowner. In the New Testament Paul tells the slave to obey his master, but that the master must respect his slave as a fellow beliver.

Paul Hue said...

The anonymous posters advocating against slaves killing their masters are really making us republicans look bad. The original republicans included people who advocating armed rebellion against slave owners. Ultimately, the original republicans united in doing just that, with the federal army. We modern republicans should be proud of that.

Using the bible for guidance is foolish, if you ask me. The bible's advocacy of slave docility is but one if its many errors.

Anonymous said...

SORRY PAUL LINCOLN DID NOT ENCOURAGE BLACKS TO "KILL" SLAVE MASTERS. ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF YOU WERE BACK THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED THE TERRORIST JOHN BROWN??

Anonymous said...

MANDELA WAS A TERRORIST AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN TRIED.

Anonymous said...

"MANDELA WAS A TERRORIST AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN TRIED"

You're an idiot of the worst kind.

"LINCOLN DID NOT ENCOURAGE BLACKS TO "KILL" SLAVE MASTERS. ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF YOU WERE BACK THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED THE TERRORIST JOHN BROWN??"

you're also an idiot of the worst kind, assuming your someone different from the first anon.

let's flip it - you're advocating complacency in slavery (just be happy negroes, one day lincoln will set you free! until then, good times!).

so essentially you're condoning slave-owners and slavery. well i'd say that means you support racial terrorism.

did you even look at some of those pictures? black people were treated like cattle. cows. MOO.

lynched, murdered, mutilated, body parts strewn to the crowd as "mementos" and as warning signs to other black folks not to get "too uppity."

12 million black slaves between 16-19th century. 4 million alone in 1860. do you get this concept? i.e. white plantation owners used black bodies like animals to build both the land and the economy of the united states.

between 1865 and 1965 almost 5,000 black people were lynched. do you understand that? lynched. strung up by the neck for being black.

seriously, i am having a hard time understanding how you can be so willfully ignorant. please educate yourself or shut up.

seriously, i can't even comprehend your mindset right now. you're beyond disrespectful.

i'm hoping you're a troll and you really aren't that ignorant.

Paul Hue said...

If I were alive back then, belonging to any "race", I hope that I would have the courage to support John Brown, and for that matter the slave rebels. Abe Lincoln did not advocate armed slave insurrection, but: many other republicans did, and Lincoln took the actions that led to those insurrection advocates getting what they wanted, which was the federal government doing the job.

Paul Hue said...

John Brown was tried, and martyred. And the Union army marched down to free the slaves singing, "John Brown's Body.

I really wish that our dear moderator would block anon posts. I'm disappointed that this blog is attracting people who oppose armed rebellion for slaves. Do you people oppose armed rebellion for the US founding fathers?

Anonymous said...

FIRST MY CAPS KEY IS BROKEN AND NO I AM NOT A TROLL MY NAME IS MATTHEW O'NEIL FROM SARASOTA FLORIDA,NOW BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING NO ONE IS ADVOCATING SLAVERY...IDA WELLS SAID THESE THINGS AFTER SLAVERY WAS OFFICIALLY OVER.INSTEAD OF ASKING BLACKS TO REPORT CRIMES TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES SHE ASK THAT THEY KILL WHITE PEOPLE. WE HAVE LAWS IN THIS NATION AND FOLLOWING THE LAW IS NOT BEING COMPLACENT SHOULD BE FOLLOWED THIS IS NOT THE WILD WEST.

sigh said...

"INSTEAD OF ASKING BLACKS TO REPORT CRIMES TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES SHE ASK THAT THEY KILL WHITE PEOPLE. WE HAVE LAWS IN THIS NATION AND FOLLOWING THE LAW IS NOT BEING COMPLACENT SHOULD BE FOLLOWED THIS IS NOT THE WILD WEST."

I guess you decided not to click on the links because then you would have known what lynching was.

1. Ida B. Wells wrote a book, "On Lynching"

2. She traveled through the south and watched ritualistic lynchings (please see above descriptions) being carried out regularly, and black folks living in terror.

3. the people lynching them, 50% of the time were police. so how are the police going to help when their the ones stringing you up?

4. extra-legal justice = lynching. Extra-legal justice = outside of the law. The law isn't going to help... PERIOD.

5. Between 1865-1889, 1500 black people were lynched. Look at withoutsanctuary to see exactly what that was like.

So I'll ask again, if you're a black person in 1882, living in the Jim Crow south, and you see a mob outside with a noose and some guns... and the guy leading the mob is the town "sheriff," come to arrest you on bogus charges...are you going to twiddle your thumbs and "call the police?"

I don't think you quite understand that black folks in the south were living in terror, i.e. racial terrorism, in the south. there were non authorities to call. in the rare case that you got a trial, you had an all white jury, no lawyer, and a mob waiting on the outside. No one was found innocent - ever. No Anti-lynching laws, no protection for black people under the laws, no advocates, nothing. I mean... you had movies coming out like Birth of a Nation that glorified lynching.

I don't think you get it. Killing black people in the South was in a sick way, like entertainment - sport. Hence the phrase "ritualistic lynching." White folks used to get dressed up and picnic while they lynched black folks.

please, educate yourself.

Paul Hue said...

1. To our beloved host: I request that this blog block anonymous posts.

2. To the anony who worries about blacks defending themselves with deadly force from white criminals, such as 1800s slavers and 1900s night riders: I'm not going to debate you anymore on this topic. If, given all the info that you have, you want to protect the lives of white slavers and night riders, I leave you on the other side of that issue, which I did not eve realize was a live debate.

3. Everybody else: Let's move past that very weird, antediluvian assertion, and stick with 2000s debate points. I concede that I like taking it all back to my love for the 1700s "founders", and 1800s abolitionists / slave rebels. But I suggest simply ignoring any oddball posts challenging Ida B. Wells' attacking lynchers and slavers. There is no modern republican defense of those by-gone violent criminals, and I don't like the "hip hop blog" getting consumed by such a view.